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How would you like a graphical operating system with multitasking on an 8-bit atari? :-)
http://asma.musichall.cz/at-wokna.png
Would anyone be interested in coding such OS?
I would gladly participate on that, with knowledge of operating system theory and some pixel art  :D

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don't ya think da win9x gui style stink?

look man
http://www.i-lo.tarnow.pl/edu/inf/hist/gui/

:-)

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Would anyone be interested in coding such OS?
I would gladly participate on that, with knowledge of operating system theory and some pixel art  :D

Well, I started coding such thing around 1996-97 but due to lack of good idea of a workable sheduler and IO subsystem - I gave it up. I still have some source around, but I don't think I'll follow. Remember one nifty idea of bank-switched round-robin sheduler. Some people (Jurgi/FLD or Charlie/NG if my memory serves me right) came up with a tricky idea of NMI based bank mutexes. Never got a working implementation though. That's all i can remember right now.

ps. some people saw the working GUI :) but the underlying OS was the normal atari OS so, not a big deal :)
Anyway - good luck to whomever writes such thing. Could be cool.

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Great idea!!!
I propose one: completely new os, using Hard Disks interfeaces with no limits, stereo, extra memory etc. Maybe fully compatibly with DOS 3.30 (TOS)? Of course - old atari formats included...

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It would be nice to have such system on little Atari. Not only to show that atr can handle OS whit multitask. It would be useful - as I know, on 320K it's possible to hear ami-modules, so someone could write a player under that sys, and while writing another program have fun listening something at the time :). It would... It would? But... how many people are using Atari for things like gfx, txt, coding? Maybe many, I don't know, becaouse I know atr scene in practice short time. Anyway - i want that sys! :)

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I like the idea. Add memory protection and vmm support to my "like-to-have" list :)
Maybe someone would port Mozilla and OpenOffice ?

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one word: contiki ?

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Wasn't it discussed before ?  ;)
Link here.  I mean DIAMOND GOS, ATOS and BOSS XE.  8)

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moze maly konkursik fejkow? photoshopy w lape i kto ma ladniejszy pulpit na malym atari ;-)

http://atari.pl/hsc/ad.php?i=1.

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teraz prawdziwy scenowiec robi pulpity 2D na SoftImage 3D...trzeba byc trendy;)

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Good idea, but any GOS for Atari should be at leat so usable and functional as GEOS for C64. I can see no sense in making the 'look at me only' OSes...

12 Odpowiedź przez CharlieChaplin

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Well,
I do collect GUI`s and so far none of them made it to a standard on A8... In my collection are the following GUI`s / desktops:
- GOS 1985/86 (2 or 3 versions, looks nice, but thats it!)
- GOE 1988 (also 2 versions, supports mouse and Sparta DOS)

- XL-TOS 1987 (2 versions from german Atari magazine; absolutely lame - looks good, loads nothing, crashes always!),
- SAM 1988-89 (commercial version 2.x and type-in version 1.x from german Atari magazine; has lots of utilities, based on GEM of Atari ST; works with mouse and Joystick, can be enhanced with new tools easily - alas it merely works with DOS 2.5 ED format which was very popular at that time)

- ATOS 200? (complete GUI by TOM Hunt, with lots of tools and Sparta (only) support, alas the current version requires a harddisk partition 4MB or bigger or a good knowledge which parts are basically required to run the GUI from various disks and/or ramdisk),

- Desktop Construction Set (also by Tom Hunt, a sort of fore-runner to ATOS, available in 3 separate versions: a) DOS 2.5, b) MyDOS, c) SpartaDOS; since I never used it, I cannot tell much about it...)

- BOSS-XE and BOSS-X 1994-2004 (complete GUI written by Mirko Sobe in Turbo Basic XL; comes with lots of tools and many great ideas; supports MyDOS, subdirs and HD partitions up to 16MB; alas, is written completely in TB which takes quite some time to load: DOS-TB XL-GUI-program/tool),

- Diamond GOS 1988-1992 (available as a demo-version on disk and as version 1.x, 2.x and 3.x on super-cart. by Alan Reeve; the demo version is PD, the cart versions or better their ROMs are now freeware; this should have been the standard for Atari XL/XE computers, alas the Tramiels rejected the request by Reevesoft to licence this product and make it an official Atari product; in the end the GUI never really caught on; version 2.x and 3.x supported DOS XE, Sparta DOS, MyDOS and other systems with the capability of subdirs...)

well, there are dozens of other A8 GUI`s - think I even have some polish GUI`s in my collection, but as said before: none of them ever made it to a standard on the A8 and nowadays I have my doubts that any kind of GUI will ever do so. But hey, if you have nothing else to do, why not code another GUI... ;-)         -Andreas.

P.S.: If you are interested in any GUI just write an e-mail to:   amp#abbuc*de   and I will send you a part of my or my complete GUI collection...

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http://gdansk-orunia.eu.org/atari/atari … system.atr tez fajnie sie zapowiadalo...

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don't ya think da win9x gui style stink?

look man
http://www.i-lo.tarnow.pl/edu/inf/hist/gui/

:-)

To pisał jakiś idiota. Podpis magister Jerzy, "Historia graficznych systemów", a nigdy nie słyszał o GEM-ie. No i te teksty:

"Kopiowałem sobie kilka plików (desktopem na Apple II), gdy nagle uderzyło mnie, jak bardzo przypomina to Windows 95 (lub być może, jak wiele Windows 95 wzięło z tych koncepcji). Inne programy zarządzające dyskiem, dostępne w owych czasach, nie były tak miłe przy zapisywaniu plików na ich poprzednich kopiach, więc zdziwiło mnie, iż ten zapytał mnie w taki sposób (tłum. w okienku znajduje się napis: Ten plik już istnieje. Czy chcesz go nadpisać ?)."

No faktycznie, rewelka.

And now about the graphical and multitasking Atari OS: IMHO, it is some multitasking kernel first, what is needed, and then you can build a GUI over it. The problem is that we don't have such a kernel yet. The other problem is whether we really want preemptive multitasking and OS development being made over years, with constant stability problems and so ...

By the way, I think that a really effective scheduler can be made on 65c816 (with its support for private zero pages and private stacks), and not on 6502. Correct me please, if I am wrong.

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