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Are you trying to add some value to AspeQt that you took over, or is it there just to prove that you can upload some source code to Sourceforge?

What's going on is that I am still developing the software, and it is still free to anyone who cares to use it. I am not just snatching a project from it's developers hands (re; "RespeQt") and sitting on my ass, doing nothing but removing all "Ray" related references from it. Accusing "Ray" for promoting his hardware through his links and references, yet adding noting of any tangible value to it other than a "Mac Address locked" Bluetooth device support, only to promote somebody else's really generic but "soft locked" run of the mill, off the shelf Bluetooth dongle. Hey, that's fine with me, it is also fine that I have to write on a "Polish" speaking board in English from an ocean away. What is not fine, is people like you trying to teach me a lesson, a lesson I have no interest in listening.

So to answer your question on licences and source codes and such..... wait and see..

Adios

Even convicted murderers deserve recognition.

Czy ja dobrze widzę, że nie ma już tam źródeł itp?

Ray, I thought that the context of my question was clear: I wasn't asking what's going on in your development or in develolment of any other project, because those thing have nothing to do with the issue of you violating GPL. It seems that I have to make my question more specific for you, so here it goes:

Can you explain what's actually going on with you breaking the licence of the AspeQt project? Why are you violating it? When can we expect this violation to stop?

If you felt like being lectured, well, you actions indicate that you either didn't understand the consequences of GNU GPL, or worse, chose to purposefully violate it. I assumed the former in good faith, hency my lecturing you. Surely, you wouldn't want me to automatically assume the latter, would you?

This thread is like:

Look, I don't want to start a war here, you don't know my intentions, so go easy with the accusations. The fact that i don't want to discuss copyright issues here doesn't mean I ignore them, I will be in contact with the copyright holders and get some sort of agreement, but I am not in liberty to discuss this here or anywhere else.

Well, theoretically it looks impossible, in practice though that's what happened. I've been developing AspeQt since Fatih left the scene. Since then there were nobody willing to participate in development, save a couple of people who did some language translations. And then the gang at Atariage, lead by, you know who, were always on my case because I expressed my opinion on the software he was developing. They practically forced me to abandon the AspeQt thread that I always was using to keep the community informed about the progress. (I suggest you review the last few pages of that thread and see how they turned it into garbage). And finally the person who was always on my case managed to get my account inactivated, so I can no longer participate. If was doing AspeQt for commercial gain I wouldn't give a hoot, besides I wouldn't be on Atariage to start with. Look at Steven of AtariMax, how often does he participate on discussions there. All that finally led me to withdraw my changes from Sourceforge. I didn't touch the original code though. Krotki promptly re-uploaded some of the code that I withdrew. Then somebody else started a fork, renamed it to respeqt, removed anything related to me (except the few copyright notices he felt he should not touch). Knowing him and the history of his relationship with me on Atariage, I know that was a reactionary action. And as i expected, he never did anything serious with it other than "sanitizing" it.  So to make the long story short, while it is theoretically impossible to snatch the development of GPL app from someone's hands, in practice it can be pretty close to it by blocking that person from accessing the community, and making it very difficult for him to connect with his supporters. And the fact that I am posting this, in this Polish speaking forum, is the best proof of that.

That's right, and it is exactly why linux is so messy, had it not been for the community, i wouldn't touch that OS. There is a good reason why it never catches on the desktop. People who don't care about the source but care about the reliability, the timely support and documentation go elsewhere. Also, Torvalds says "I supported GPL2 because, i want to share my code and I want to get something back in return (other's code)", look what I've got back instead :-)

And here we are, some people accusing me with breaking copyright laws, and that is coming from individuals who had no problem copying, hacking and distributing copyrighted work during Atari's haydays and even today. Can you honestly say that you respected the copyrights of all the software you collected over the years? If you can, then don't take my words personally.

I am all for sharing, but sharing for nothing in return does not appeal me. You can count on the next software coming from me won't be GPL licenced. Now you can go ahead and post whatever you want on the front page, where "it deserves to be".

I don't recall addressing you, but for your entertainment I strongly suggest that you watch this and then go kiss him from his hands (if you have the stomac for it) :-)

a8w: I hope you don't give a damn about those licensing gurus here :) For what it's worth they are right and correct about the license, but I think that the 'worst' consequences have already been set upon you by banning you on aage :) that's all this FSF/GNU/GPL crowd can do :) This is a niche project, nobody will sue you, just some badmouthing - which you can ignore :)
GPL violations happen all the time and nobody gives a damn - unless it's a project with a big community, they can spot it and go postal about it all over internet :) Some really serious stuff in terms of GPL violations happens in commercial software written for big players which the community has no access to.
So my take is this: GPL is evil, communist, and shoud die, you INDEED violated it, but I personally think you SHOULD NOT CARE, and the worst that can happen to you in terms of consequences has already happened to you. So, cheers and good luck with it!

ps. GPL zealots, spare yourself the comments :)

Thankfully there is a lot of great software with better licenses. And I asked you to spare yourself the comments :) adam

20 years ago I knew GPL by heart and was a GNU/FSF fanatic, I know the license and its usage ramifications. I just don't care about these 'problems' anymore since in real life everyone is violating the GPL all over the place - just not under the scrutiny of anyone to know and take actions.