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atari.area forum » Posty przez flashjazzcat
Is this stuff true?
Nie ma tu większego trolla niż Ty, mistrzu wsadzania kija w mrowisko, konfabulacji i uciekania od dyskusji szyderstwami z braku argumentów ;)
fjc niezorientowany - też dobre.
Medialność gry zweryfikuje sprzedaż.
Ad hominem insults are always the first resort of someone with no real arguments. Generally they expose their own character via their behaviour without any help from anyone else. :)
I've been confronted on the Forum with Lotharek and Candle and I found them reacting quite aggressively to any criticism of their products, and acting like they were the smartest and greatest people on the World, and everyone should love and adore them, and be thankful for their products.
No lies detected there. :D
This is called purism, I understand and respect that. This is retro stuff. The hardware is what it was back in the '80s. We can, and should, explore its abilities in software, but keep the hardware in its original form. If you like 16-bit CPUs, go for Atari ST or Amiga, or even RAPIDUS, but don't call RAPIDUS an Atari XE. It has nothing to do with Atari XE, except it uses its case, keyboard, and a (modified) system software. It can do things that real XE system could never do. It is really great, but it is no longer an Atari XE.
Yeah - I understand purism, but it's a perilous path. One would have to reject most of what's offered by a device like PokeyMAX as well, and I don't necessarily see such levels of ethical consistency.
I agree, that patching all U1MBs in the World is not possible. But, at the same time, it should be not that difficult to fix the firmware (if that's really a bug, which I have no idea about) and sell new cards already patched. This would make everyone happy - if there's a bug in fw, XXL should feel satisfied andpeople whould have rights to insist on patching his games to work on older, unpatched U1MBs.
I think Candle acknowledged the 'behaviour' of the hardware. You'll have to ask him why he didn't fix it in new devices. Wild guess? XXL's attitude has been so fucking obnoxious that the chance for a fix has been blown.
Life is not simple... first step is to admit, that there is a bug.
Already done, AFAIK, by Candle. XXL admits no issue, however, with his own stuff, so has not even broached that first step.
So do you prefer simple, or fair solutions?
If you think it's fair to deliberately exploit a quirk of U1MB for no practical reason other than to make your software crash on the machine, I don't know what to say. I simply do not know what point is being made here, other than an ideological objection to a certain vendor or designer.
I have no doubts that, as the bug is known, it should be corrected. I'm aware that manufacturer/distributor may be afraid to admit, that there is a bug, because it could mean, that he had to correct it on his cost (at least for units, which are still within the warranty period) - by replacing or reprogramming the units.
Certainly I can't understand why one would not fix a bug unless the well had already been poisoned by politics, which I think is what happened here.
XXL seems to be a little too proud to give up, but so do the U1MB developers.
Note that the U1MB CPLD side of things has nothing to do with me. I consider exploitation of the issue to be incredibly childish, however.
I'm pretty sure, if the U1MB developers would publicly acknowledge that there is a bug in the U1MB, relesed a patched/corrected firmware, and started selling units with this new firmware, XXL would release a patch for his software to work with a stock/not pached U1MB. The war would be over.
Possible. All I know of XXL's personality is what he projects on forums. In my experience, anyone who will go to these lengths will be hard to appease. It is not without precedent, either. He advocates illegal OS entry points, seems to consider 'NEWDEV' an aftermarket invention, and has an ethical objection to 16-bit CPUs. I would personally not be prepared to pander to someone with such complex needs. :)
Don't you think, that both sides of the conflict are equally stubborn (you will probably deny, because you are one of the sides)? I don't think XXL even cares about correcting the bug, he just wants U1MB developers to admit, that it is a bug. You say "not worth bothering for one piece of software", so I bet he will release more software, which deliberately won't work with U1MB... just for his satisfaction, and to eradicate the argument about "one piece of software".
Simple question for you: which is easier? Distributing a JED file and asking every U1MB owner to purchase a Xilinx platform cable, download the Lab Tools software, make a suitable patch cable for the 2mm JTAG header, and flash the CPLD of their U1MB, or XXL changing his damn game?
I'm afraid I consider it a dick move to advocate the former solution when distributing actively maintained software. Not that XXL would say he advocates either solution, since it's clear to me that he is NOT LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION. He enjoys the problem too much.
Offtopic. Ten błąd w U1Mb tkwi w firmware czy źle zaprojektowanej płytce ? Bo niezrozumiałe dla mnie jest to też, że nie poprawiono tego. Wymaga zbyt dużego nakładu pracy ?
Not worth bothering with for the sake of one piece of software which only has an issue because of a pointless contrivance.
Amazing quality!
AVG's SIDE emulation places the IDE registers at the exact same memory location as a real SIDE2 cart. So it's impossible to access both devices at the same time, no matter what changes are made to the driver.
Mogą, tylko trzeba zmienić numery partycji, żeby się nie pokrywały.
LSDEV and LSDSK tools (APT Toolkit ATR) can be useful here, since they display active device IDs and the location (i.e. host adapter) of all active partitions.
Thanks FJC,
Tell me please, why I can't see SIDE2 as device to flash from computer equipped with U1MB... I tried with enabled/disabled Sparta on U1MB and SIDE2 board. I downloaded Side_Loader_v3.02 from your site. When I boot from ATR I see only message: "Waiting for SIDE2...". Finally, I updated only Sparta on SIDE2 because I can't do it from my 800XL with U1MB.
I flash SIDE2 on U1MB machines all the time. Secret is to ensure U1MB ROMs are not in the way. So: turn off PBI HDD and SDX in U1MB settings, put SIDE2 in SDX mode, and power-cycle machine. SDX will boot from SIDE2 and you can then flash both SDX ROM and loader ROM as you wish.
UFLASH: Options -> Set SDX Size. If you have no need of the U1MB GOS, set SDX size to 320K. The flasher will then apply the 320K ROM without complaint.
As for SIDE: SDX is always 256KB.
Note SIDE driver is several generations old... a new one will be released in a matter of days now.
Na razie ciekawie się zapowiada.
W kwestii GUI to chyba wzorcem jest to co zrobił FJC w fdisku do APT, uflash i innych.
Nie tylko menu, ale także listy, okienka dialogowe, przyciski, pola tekstowe, pola wyboru. W dodatku responsywne - działa w 40 i 80 kolumnach (VBXE lub soft. GR8).
Pytałem go nawet, czy kiedyś udostępni ten framework - owszem, jak będzie miał go kiedyś czas ogarnąć :/
Perhaps in the current circumstances, I will have time to address this request, finally. :)
Problem with my library is definitely code size, but once you start handling dialog boxes and file selectors with event-based callbacks (which is what is going on in FDISK, UFLASH, etc) and every control existing as a self-contained object, it takes a lot of code. GUIs are by their nature quite code-heavy.
http://www.mushca.com/f/atari/index.php?idx=A
Click 'Download All' on the right.
dla wybranych komputerów zapewne
Be relieved if not among those selected. :)
No more effort than the contrivances necessary to deliberately make software break on U1MB.
Widać pewną regularność; adres zmniejsza się o 4 bajty przy każdym kolejnym wystąpieniu. :)
Thanks! Heuristic anti-virus detection in next version of U1MB loader knows what to look for now. :D
Error code 132 ($84) means 'No device handler installed', so perhaps the SDX ROM is entirely corrupted at the moment. I have no idea; one would not normally see such an error message under any circumstances.
Download this: https://atari8.co.uk/wp-content/uploads … 010819.zip
It has the latest SDX, loader, drivers, etc.
Jacques napisał/a:Może tak było naście lat temu, gdy "gołe" Atari 8-bit dało się kupić za 50 zł, ale obecnie?
...obecnie nadal można kupić sprawne Atari za mniejsza lub podobną kwotę. Więc wkładanie 2gie tyle w coś co umożliwi uruchomienie dodatkowych kilku procent dem i gier (które można sobie odpalić na emulatorze) jest mało racjonalne.
Z kolei dla kolekcjonera, więcej wart jest komputer w oryginalnym stanie, niż z takim współczesnym rozszerzeniem... U1MB pod tym względem jest w miarę ok, bo daje się wymontować bez śladu, nie wymaga "twardych" ingerencji w płytę główną.
Read feature list of U1MB; there's a reason it sold four figure units and it's not because it provides 1MB of RAM. If extra features aren't for you, SIMM 1MB expansion exists. I cannot understand the argument over a device what provides value for users who actually want what it offers. Market decides what rises to the top, and thousands of users seem to think it was a good investment. U1MB is by no means mandatory, though, if you prefer to use something else.
Change forum domain to xbios.org.pl. Then the eventual subject of all threads will be clear to new users. :)
Why would Sophia and VBXE not work together in the same machine? If there's space for a DVI connector on the back of your Mini-ATX case, you can have DVI out from Sophia and 15KHz RGB out via DIN13 from VBXE. No problem.
Rapidus, meanwhile, will fit if you use ebiguy's alternative XEL-CF3 adapter PCB. Contact him via AtariAge about it.
Unfortunately Rapidus cold-started my machine on RESET after five minutes of use (just like every other machine I put it in), so I took it out again, but I still use ebiguy's board, since it has handy connection points for VBXE.
mate, Zaxon added four 100nF capacitors and the CF3 magically started to work with the cards that failed to work before, so maybe there is something to improve in hardware design (CF3) to make it working better (in terms of cards compatibility).
Quite possibly: this is exactly the point I was trying to make. Any improvements should be fed back to mytek.
Is XEL-CF3 will boot with unmodfied XL/XE ROM?
It will. It's driven by a PBI BIOS, so works seamlessly with stock operating systems. It even works alongside external PBI devices providing bus IDs do not clash.
@tooloudtoowide - jeśli to klon MyIDE (co podejżewam), to wolę sprawdzone rozwiązania które notabene działają praktycznie z dowolnymi kartami CF, czy dyskami ATA. Nie można porównywać MyIDE do pełnowymiarowego urządzenia NewDev - IDE, bo to jest trochę tak jakby porównać protezę nogi do prawdziwej nogi :)
If MYIDE could be driven by the U1MB PBI BIOS, it would be functionally identical to any Newdev IDE device, since that's exactly what is implemented. XEL-CF3 registers are in the $D1xx region, doesn't interfere with cartridges or block the cart port, and operates 100 per cent as a Newdev PBI HDD. Whether buffering and stabilisation methods of the hardware allow it to work with a particular card is another matter entirely.
PAL version has s-video out of the box. But the SCCC's video quality is much better anyway.
Yes: that's a Candle original without RD4/RD5 resistors, but the later batch had the v.2 JED, which is why you were OK.
What is the strange solder blob next to the MMU IDC connector, BTW?
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