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Bullshit:

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

I decided to make the request myself to change my screen name with the admin here.

Fact:

This account name was changed to 'PeteyM5' after admin detected my attempt to sign up with multiple accounts here at atariarea, and I was told I would be banned if I attempted to create more sock-puppet accounts.

Bullshit:

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

Likewise, I actually had this account here for years, but did not use it much until a few months ago when I saw you were giving other people problems.

Fact:

I started posting in Polish using a sock I had created years ago in order to a) offer the sole voice of support to a troll when I noticed they were giving FJC some stick and I wanted to join in, and b) to make unfounded accusations regarding the 'harassement' and 'bullying' of 'Buffalo Pete' and others.

And so on...

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PeteyM5 napisał/a:

plus I had not attempted to create accounts for almost 3 years now

I understand you kept trying long after that, and I happen to know you still attempt to do the exact same thing when signing up to other forums.

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

It was obvious I was no longer able to have civil conversations there about my games

Entirely because of your own actions: a pig-headed unwillingness to accept (generally constructive) criticism, implying that the entire community was out to pirate your stuff, and of course maintaining a number of sock-puppet accounts which you used to big-up said products and hold conversations with your main account (so you were actually talking to yourself and creating the impression you were responding to a third party). I think you need to accept a bit of blame for how things panned out at AtariAge, to put it mildly.

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

There are no special rules from email services about having accounts. How many different email accounts do you have?

I have about four, BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THEY BELONG TO ME. I don't use them to email people creepy, spam messages pretending I'm called 'Jake Arthur'. Of course I receive spam all the time and it goes into the junk, but the big difference here is that I KNOW YOU ARE THE SOURCE OF THE JAKE ARTHUR EMAIL. If any other community member sent me emails like that while pretending to be someone else, and I knew it was them (as I know with 100 per cent certainty that you were behind the Jake Arthur emails), I'd treat them exactly as I treat you: calling you out for your bullshit and publicly questioning why you persist in doing such asinine things.

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

Everyone I know have multiple email accounts they use for various reasons, separate for work, business, romance, pleasure. I cannot tell you how many times I used a different account to sign up for something because I don't want my business accounts to be spam jammed.

I find it hard to believe anyone can be stupid enough to conflate having separate business and personal email addresses with sending weird, creepy emails to people under an assumed name using a ghost email account. Everything you write is either a massive, deliberate troll, or you're an idiot.

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

Myself and Video61 receive emails and seems to be ongoing possible coming from thug Atari community members that I had prior problems with on AtariAge.

Not from me you don't. I didn't reply to one of your (again, unsolicited emails) since I was copied in on some discussion between you and another Atari community member, and I seem to remember telling you to f**k off, and have made no attempt to email you since. I ended up blocking Lance's emails, meanwhile, after he started an email disucssion with me about your anitics, because it was like talking to a brick wall. But if you do receive emails from aggravated community members (not the imaginary 'AtariAge thugs', but people like me who you've probably pissed off to the point at which they completely lose their temper), YOU HAVE ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME.

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

I have discovered many associations over the years and I know of your association with Albert, the late KJMANN, and others.

LOL. Get a load of Sherlock Holmes here. Of course I speak to Albert privately; I never made any secret of the fact. I was one of the people who helped identify your sock accounts at AtariAge; it wasn't hard, since all your sock accounts made the same grammatical errors you made when posting with your main account. And yes: I spoke to Sal as well. He forwarded me the nasty email you sent him a few days before he died. I still have it sitting here in my inbox.

PeteyM5 napisał/a:

Having civil discussions online with people does help me build better games.

Hilarious, coming from the person who signed up on this very forum a few months ago and posted under a pseudonym, speaking about 'Buffalo Pete' in the third-person and shit-stirring by accusing me of harrassing him and other community members, until the admin established the account holder's true identity and changed the account name to PeteyM5.

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PeteyM5 napisał/a:

I have taken down those other accounts many months ago because they are no longer necessary.

https://i.ibb.co/MhBh8B9/Jake-Arthur.png

You forgot this email account. I know time passes quickly as one gets older, but this email was sent only nineteen days ago from the same email account you previously used to register one of several sock-puppet accounts at AtariAge, at the very least (I won't repeat the details of more recent discussions I had with the forum administrators here).

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Another one who likes childish games. Birds of a feather flock together, etc.

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PeteyM5 napisał/a:

Avoid getting into keyboard wars that go off topic about the game.

That's great (albeit a bit hard to swallow given the fact you're using an account with which you previously spoke about yourself in the third-person despite the fact everyone suspected it was you using a pseudonym), but if that's genuinely true, do you want to start by not sending me stupid emails (from the same account you previously used to register an account at AtariAge)?

https://i.ibb.co/MhBh8B9/Jake-Arthur.png https://i.ibb.co/yQZDw9t/Pete-Dupe-Accounts-New-png-0fec6a0d04320f420183302d959e8cb2.png https://i.ibb.co/XZMN2WN/Peter-Atari-Age-Accounts-1-jpg-a8477e4ed499b217f96db85439d0d514.jpg

As per: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/11040 … nt=4194599

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pablozp napisał/a:

xxxxl szczepiles się czy nadal jesteś dziewic ?

Hopefully not. We don't need any more pricks.

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PilotZmii napisał/a:
Amun-Ra napisał/a:

What is that? Some kind of victim blaming?

It seems that way, I'm not sure who's playing the victim. This seems to be about the "Secretum Labyrinth Dark Castle" controversy for the Atari 8-bit. A game similar to Zelda or Adventure where the user explores different screens, collects items and searches for treasures. Posted in 2019 and looks like a music glitch debate as the screen changes. AtariAge forum members attack other games like Prince of Persia. A similar group of people.
I'm not sure why game developers face challenges there. It could be envy or price. The 8-bit Atari lacked something like Zelda, or  an extended 2600 Adventure until the retro game makers created something.

It's pretty clear who is 'playing the victim' here. Someone who propagated multiple AtariAge forum accounts and then - after being banned - multiple social media accounts, and has admitted same in as many words (falsely professing to have shut down the accounts on multiple occasions, before proceeding to continue using them). He then plays the victim by claiming that the consequences of his actions were not the result of maintaining sock accounts, shilling, spamming, libel, sending unsolicited and menacing emails and DMs, but some kind of conspiracy to damage his business. Perfectly legitimate constructive criticism (which began politely and in good faith before it became apparent that the protagonist was using the sock 'Bluemoon_001' account to deflect remarks about 'gaps in music' which were only recently acknowledged to have existed all along, and finally - three years later - have been fixed; this was only one of several illegitimate accounts) is - again - framed as 'victimisation', 'bashing', etc. You can see the discussion between two accounts (PeteyM5 and Bluemoon_001) maintained by the same person right here:

https://forums.atariage.com/topic/28529 … ser-video/

Why anyone would dredge up this three-year old farce (and the legitimate criticisms, which he clearly can't get over to this day) when it's the very thread that resulted in him being booted off the forum after he sailed too close to the wind with the 'Bluemoon_001' account, I don't know; I couldn't have selected a better example which demonstrates every point I am trying to make.

Never mind my 'understanding' and forgiveness toward stupid behaviour: there are 'social consequences' to pig-headedness (deafness to criticism) and deliberate deception (presenting to potential customers mutliple sock-accounts masquerading as independent, unbiased commentators); perhaps if one had not employed such nefarious methods in the first place, and had not continued to do so, it would not be necessary to publicise the matter for the benefit of uninformed community members (as I am inclined to do, having blocked the sock accounts, every time I receive another creepy email from a new burner account).

This is the reason this 'game developer [faced] challenges here', not because of 'envy' (of what?) or 'price'. Not even the nothingburger debates regarding PoP and its use of XBIOS or the game author's theatrical, cape-swinging exit from one of my threads is comparable in any way.

In any case: write more, since the material becomes more interesting with each post. ;)

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

It seems that the cat is calm and does not worry about what is happening in other places. Let the sleeping cat lie down.

Funny you should say that. Shared at atari8, along with any other such crap I receive:

https://i.ibb.co/k3j1n4R/Jake-Arthur.png
image hosting

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

As the Americans say: Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. The cat throws a lot, but cannot take what comes back.

I thought for a moment a few posts back that you had started to become reasonable, but clearly you still believe that someone who 'uses mean words' to the attention-seeking idiots previously listed deserves to have his house vandalised (violence, empty-threats and abject cowardice of course being the first refuge of those who cannot provide a cogent argument using words).

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Pin napisał/a:

... nie wiem jednak jak w przypadku takiego sprzętu wygląda procedura boot z takiego dysku APT i czy istnieje PBI bios dla U1MB który by zadziałał z AVG.

The standard SIDE/SIDE2 U1MB PBI BIOS works with AVG when the cartridge is in SIDE emulation mode.

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

I did email Lance and got a reply. Stated he was not aware and has no control. Buffalo Pete can just say it's not him. People can fight all they want on forums and social media that live many kilometers apart, and it never ends. This is not the pleasant side of the 8-bit scene.

No, it's not pleasant at all, especially in such a small community. Peter can say it's not him, but unfortunately he's been caught in a lie yet again, since the 'Anne Krys Stark' account (previously named 'Katzpinke Colleen', 'Marie Rousso', 'Mary Rose Bartkowicz', and 'Meri Barinov') was one of the moderators of his facebook group when this screenshot was taken:

https://i.ibb.co/6g8C0gL/Moderator-list.jpg

His attempts to explain this away just result in further convolution:

https://i.ibb.co/fC9sv6v/Chaos.png

Regarding Rensoup: I can only assume Peter is referring to some debate regarding Prince of Persia, which fizzled out no later than March 2022. PoP is in fact freely downloadable, and Rensoup's latest (and quite reasonable) complaint is that someone appeared to be selling or was planning to sell pre-flashed cartridges with copies of his software on them.

As for Lance Ringquist: that's the usual response he issues, but he in fact shares Peter's opinion of AtariAge and repeatedly defends Peter's behaviour.

Here's another example of Peter admitting to being in control the account while simultaneously denying it:

https://i.ibb.co/ncRwZh9/Peter-lies.jpg

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

Whoever controls this Anne Krys account is teasing flashjazzcat. Buffalo Pete doesn't mention what's going on here, in his Facebook group, or Atari.IO. Can we be sure it's him?

Peter has apparently addressed the situation in a post made on his... um... 'primary' account, in which he denies all knowledge of the Anne Krys Stark account, despite the fact it's the same account which was once an admin on his group page, albeit under a different name (easily demonstrable by screenshots taken at the time). He appears to be hopelessly confused at the moment, which is what happens, I suppose.

Why was Rensoup's name introduced into this thread, BTW, and why is he continually mentioned? AFAIK, he is a good faith actor with whom I have had no interaction since March 2022. If he's discouraged from writing porting games, I would imagine it's because of this: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/29891 … nt=5154969

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Spooky.

https://i.ibb.co/NKCpQkj/Krys-Stark.jpg

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Looks like your Buffalo nemesis hasn't done much lately. The latest post is about the Animal Keeper 7800 version. See some things about Fast Basic. Are these supposed "Shill accounts" doing anything malicious for the reasons listed? It would give us some cause.

On the contrary: the invocation worked like an absolute charm. :D

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

I don't have to live in other people's heads and be a few meters away, observing every move made, while being cloaked. I know every social media and forum post and no one knows I am there. Just take pictures or copy the link, and forward it to who it concerns the most.

Very remininscent of some shill facebook accounts which advocate vandalism and assert that 'we have agents everywhere'. I wouldn't post anything I wasn't happy to have repeated elsewhere on public forums anyway, so why the idea of 'eyes everywhere' is supposed to be intimidating, I do not know. I know one individual from Buffalo, NY has been reading this thread, since the shill social media accounts were out in force only hours later. And why would he not read it, since it was said in public.

Those are interesting posts about the Side3 Beta Loader and an unused Atari 65XE.

I don't know where said posts are, but it's easy to contact me with bug reports (this being a beta) if the desire is to get things fixed and not simply to troll, and I just released a bug-fixed update the other day. Not that it was my idea to provide the beta on sold devices anyway (indeed, I initially prohibited this), and since I'm not responsible for the code which ensures the hardware behaves in a determinate manner on a given device, there is only so much I can do in terms of maintenance. ;)

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Yes: you're living in my head for five minutes a month when I browse this forum. :D

Is this topic still about 'what's next for Atari', BTW, or has it turned into the XXL creative writing repository?

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xxl napisał/a:

na koty trzeba uwazac. mialem ostatnio przygode z kotem, somsiad sie przez niego na mnie obrazil, przyszedl do mnie i bredzil ze żone ma w szoku, że nie może się z nią dogadać bo cały czas jest zdezorientowana.

tlumacze mu, ze wracalismy wieczorem z pracy waska gorska droga gdy pod kola wyskoczyl na kot... obydwoje to poczulismy, spotkalismy sie wzrokiem i juz wiedzielismy - to hamulce... puscily.
nie zostalo nam wiele czasu, szarpalem kierownica w prawo, w lewo... krzyczala, ale to tylko pogorszylo sprawe, pedzilismy coraz szybciej, na szczescie na wysokich obrotach szybko oproznilem zbiornik paliwa

i skonczyl sie nasz ryzykowny rajd. cholerne koty...

That's the best thing you've ever written.

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

Be careful what you post about FlashJazzCat. He's gonna get you in trouble. Many people favor him here, AtariAge, Twitter, Facebook etc. Do not comment on any of his posts. The other people he mentions stay away from him and what happened. You should also.

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Almost all of the people I mentioned got themselves into trouble and are (like XXL at AtariAge) permanently on the radar of forum and group admins. As for the others, if they can't get over a difference of opinion and being ridiculed for their pomposity, that's on them.

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And I'm sure those original comments - like the post above - were made without a hint of irony or sarcasm. ;) Otherwise, why would anyone have a problem with the publicising of those heroic posts? Can't have it both ways.

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PilotZmii napisał/a:

Uważam, że publikowanie skarg na innych ludzi na Facebooku i innych mediach społecznościowych jest trochę dziecinne i nie pomaga. Pamiętaj, że nie tylko Twoi znajomi mogą to przeczytać, ale także Twoi wrogowie. Publikowanie o wrogach lub gadanie o ludziach, których nie lubisz, pokazuje, jak bardzo są cipkami? Jeśli nie możesz powiedzieć komuś czegoś w twarz, dlaczego musisz publikować w mediach społecznościowych? Wygląda na to, że pan Halliday oczywiście próbuje przekonać innych do swojego punktu widzenia, aby pomóc mu w zastraszaniu ludzi. Napisał inne wściekłe posty o innych, takich jak PeteyM5 i Rensoup.

I wrote, above an unedited screenshot of our forum exchange:

"XXL is referring to my wife publicly thanking the community for their sympathy and support. There really is no depth too low."

Later, when XXL appeared to imply that my mentioning the vandalism of my house to the community was a money-making grift, I wrote:

"Apparently there were further depths after all (quoted post is by XXL, translated)."

What I'm presenting are some of the nastiest and most mean-spirited comments I've seen in quite some time. XXL referred to my wife, after she publicly thanked the Atari community for their TOTALLY UNSOLICITED donations and messages of support. Now, I'm not the most sentimental of people, and normally avoid gushing displays of emotion like the plague, but if someone wants to make shitty comments in response to this saga on a Polish forum (which he probably would not dare to post at AtariAge, lest he triggers the outright ban that's been hanging over his head for some months), in PUBLIC, I found it perfectly appropriate to advertise his obnoxious comments on social media, where many people will see it. Moreover, my remarks are presented in the context of his original posts, so people may judge for themselves.

I also remarked that a few people have jumped to XXL's defence, presumably because they know the guy personally and can thus see through the veil of shit he presents in forum posts. Perhaps XXL is as wonderful guy and is simply 'misunderstood', but please don't sit there and accuse me of 'bullying' when it was what I rightly referred to as XXL's 'cunty comments' which precipitated my efforts to advertise his warm heart on social media. I'm pretty sure followers of Atari8 can make up their own minds when confronted with verbatim copies of XXL's forum posts.

Of course, the fact that XXL is being shepherded into the 'victim status' pen is entirely predictable, despite the fact I made no personal attacks, did not mention his family, and shared no information that wasn't already visible to anyone with an Internet connection.

As for Rensoup and PeteyM5: you might choose better examples when hunting for other angelic victims of my bullying, since these do nothing to support your case. Peter J. Meyer (PeteyM5) maintained a plethora of sock-puppet accounts at AtariAge for years, and shilled his own products using these same accounts in order to generate publicity and rebut legitimate complaints from customers regarding bugs and poor product presentation. Once banned from AtariAge, Peter proceeded to create a host of further sock-puppet accounts on Facebook, of which Albert Yarusso, myself, and others have a collossal amount of material evidence. Why did this interest me at all? Because Peter used the sock accounts with frequency to send me and many others unsolicited and threatening missives on Facebook Messenger, evading account blocks I had already put in place. Peter continues to use his shill accounts to shit-talk AtariAge, myself, and other members of the community, and continues to spam and trick many members of the community into friending his fake accounts and signing up to his group page. Not to mention threatening Albert with legal action from time to time. All-round great guy, then.

Rensoup, meanwhile, stepped into one of my threads at AtariAge, didn't like the response he got, pompously announced his departure from the thread, and got upset when I expressed how pleased I was that he was leaving so that we could return to some kind of productive discussion. He found it difficult to keep his cool when he was surprised to learn that the bootloader he'd used didn't work with... um... certain devices. Since then, he appears to have missed no opportunity at all to level ad-hominem criticisms at me and appear genuinely hurt by my failure to be in awe of his historic greatness.

If we go back further in the history of 'people who had issues with Jonathan Halliday', we can mention multiple sock-puppet account holder 'Pteve' of 'Centron 3D' infamy, who arrived at AA some years ago announcing his terrible vapourware game, quickly became involved in arguments, responded to himself with his sock accounts, threatened forum admin by email once banned, and eventually - in Victoria, Australia - was prosecuted for attacking someone with a knife.

Who else? Ray Atergin, aka 'Atari8Warez', who - just before a well-earned ban from AtariAge - signed me up to a porn site following a disagreement, but did so using his own server machine because he was an idiot. Therefore the sign-up email I received had the IP address of his website in it. After being banned from the forum, he started his own forum and put an open-source project behind a paywall, before eventually losing interest entirely.

Perhaps the exploits of those characters betray 'childish behaviour'. I don't know. There are doubtless others I haven't mentioned here, and I'm sure they're all men of excellent character with great interpersonal skills who never provoked anyone in their lives.

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I'm not upset, I feel humanly sorry for him, tormented by reality, he found an escape on the forums and deigns with his family stories ... if the motivation was a collection for a broken window, I think it was successful. comrade smirking.

Post reported. I'm told by Duddie that this person is a gentleman of excellent character and high intelligence, so I wonder why he relentlessly tries to prove the contrary on forums.

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xxl napisał/a:

nie tylko zona, cala spolecznosc jest wstrzasnieta. slijcie wsparcie naszemu przyjacielowi :-)

Wow - really cunty comment. Being obviously jealous of someone who got their window smashed and whose wife is off work ill as a result isn't a great look. You should try the higher ground sometime. ;)

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pancio.net napisał/a:

@flashjazzcat, I hope you're joking. RTC is piece of cake, easy to implement and whole U1MB is not needed in case...

But it's wholly missing from AVG, so what are you going to do about that after the fact?

I just use the RTC as an example, anyway. There is plenty about the U1MB PBI API, etc, that the author was keen to support at the time and I'm assured by tmp that XXL's opinion does not change that fact. :)

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I wonder why the author of AVG doesn't remove SIDE emulation mode (and thus all U1MB integration) entirely, then. Perhaps he needs the RTC. :D

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pablozp napisał/a:

side leży i kwiczy

It laughs, since it's now the source of all design ideas which AVG copies. :D